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What it’s Really Like Studying Music in University

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Story time! Today’s topic is about… Music university. Stories from our old music uni days when… we actually still had dreams to become real classical musicians. God dammit. I was just thinking like what was my mind like back then. Oh yeah, I had dreams to be a soloist. I confess. I had dreams to become a soloist. But anyway, we thought we’d make this video here today. A, because… the title will just looks cool. No, we actually wanted to share with you guys what it’s like going to music uni, – our experiences.
– Mhm. So that maybe those of you out there that might be interested. Brett: So we went to uni together. Yeah. – I came in one year after him.
– Yeah, you did. Brett: I practiced a lot. And then… That’s all I did. You just have a… You just kinda have a group of- Actually no, I don’t really have a group of friends. I just practiced. And then I… Every lecture I kinda just sat at the back. I tried to be a good kid, but… just, just didn’t quite resonate with me, so… Cos I wanted to practice. Mhm. And oh, I remember orientation week. – Yup.
– That’s the very first part of the uni. Yeah. Oh no, that’s bad memories. My orientation week was… lots of violinists and no violist. – Uh huh.
– And of course my teacher made me… Oh, not that he made me, but it’s what it sound- You know when people ask you a question, but you know you don’t really have a choice. – Yeah.
– It’s like… “Why don’t you just play the viola for the week?” “Cos we need more violists.” Yeah. And I was just like… Yup! So I had a crash course how to play the viola. I played the Bach Suite, Cello Bach Suite No.1. Tried to learn the alto clef. *sighs* And then voila! I played the viola for Mozart quartet just to… Orientation week so everyone gets together. That was the most painful week. That was my first week of uni. You joined music uni on the violin major program, performance, and your first week was playing viola. Yeah, so sad. Oh man… That’s brutal. I mean, like they always say it’s always good to have an orientation, so you get to know everyone! Yeah. Well, I got to know the viola. I had my orientation week… It was a flexing story actually. Oh, here we go. I like the flex. Before orienation week, actually. So you have to like do an audition to get into music uni. And you have to do a theory test. You know I got my LMus when I was 13. So it’s like AMEB, so equivalent of like ABRSM, I think, overseas. I don’t know, it’s like an institution that just – grades your level of violin playing from…
– Yeah. beginner, grade 1 to grade 8. And after grade 8, there’s AMus. And then LMus is typically the highest one that people do. I mean there’s a few ambiguous ones above that, but no one really does it. I did that when I was 13. Now, obviously when you do these exams, you have to learn theories. So my mum, being the amazing parent she was, she paid money for me to go to theory tuition every week at Thursday night. – Still remember 6:30, we’d freaking-
– Ohh… I’d be hungry and tired. I’d be learning four-part harmony. But anyway, the result of that was, I remember… We had like an hour to do this theory exam. This is not my word. This is words from my friend that… she later told me. Because she was also in that hall. She’s remembered like… everyone started the exam, it’s like an hour exam. And like 15 minutes later, me, like this one cocky Asian kid just stands up, – and leaves and hands in his theory test.
– Ahahaha! I was like “Tsk, I’ve finished it.” – Save time, finished it.
– Yeah. You come into uni, thinking you’re the best, and then you quickly get humbled by reality. Yeah, you just start- You know when you… You have to know your schedule, learn your schedule, don’t know what’s going on. You join the classes. You don’t even know what the class is about. You meet the lecturers, you sit next to someone, you try to talk to them. And then at lunchtime you just want to get away. I think a lot of people try to like socialize in 1st year. You know like the typical trend that I see is 1st year students are always like trying to talk to each other. Yeah. But then by 3rd year, everyone’s just like – I don’t have time to socialize, I need to practice.
– Yeah. By 4th year, you’re rarely there, You’re either in the library researching, – or trying to practice, and trying to get a job, and just…
– Yeah. – making, make a living.
– Yeah. Yeah. That’s when your dreams start getting crushed. In the meantime, you see like videos on YouTube of like 10-year-olds that play better then you. You’re just like… But in your mind, you’re like… “I’m not really sure how this whole prodigy thing” “translates to getting a job in the real world.” So you’re just like “Ah, maybe it’s still fine…” Yeah, maybe it’s still okay. No, no, no, I didn’t see that. No, no, that’s… Obviously it’s edited. – Yeah…
– You kind of don’t really believe it. I mean, we were both, I guess, the type that… We went into music uni with a very clear vision of what we wanted. Whether the vision was… (both) realistic. *laughs* I mean, it doesn’t matter because we had a vision. Because I think the point though is like… We had a strong vision, so we went in there knowing what we wanted, which was to get as good as we can on the violin. I think some people… A lot of people going to music uni… not really sure what they want out of it. And so they kind of… I mean, I know that’s not a bad thing. Because they get to have a more well-rounded experience. Yes. But for us, we were like… We’re here to get good at the violin, which means… It was very clear that we just wanted to practice. So any lecture that we could kind of get out of, I mean, we don’t recommend this, but we were just like in the practice room – and practicing.
– Yeah. Probably harder to do it now, I’ve heard a lot of unis they have like signed tags. But we would, back in our days, just be like “Hey, sign us off.” “Sign us off. We don’t wanna be there.” – And then we just practiced.
– Yeah… I wasn’t really there to sing, so… Yeah. And then… we just practiced, and we… uh, In our uni, we had this thing called “the workshop.” – Oh, yes.
– So every category of instruments, we perform a lot to your peers, and one of the teachers of the faculty gives you feedback. And I think that was probably… arguably one of the best exp- Aside from private lessons, that was probably the best experience. And no one does it! No… That is the crazy thing. Yeah, no one does it. I think, they always designate 90 minutes every week. A chance to perform- Understandably, cos it’s so hard! And you know, we all know how hard it is to play in front of your peers and get nervous, but… Weird though, I think… – I know you did as well, I tried to play every week.
– Yeah. Mhm. Even when the piece was half ready, – I just tried to play every week because…
– Yeah. it was the most obvious course to take for what we wanted to do. – Yes.
– Perform. Yup. I think that’s one of the greatest things about music uni is you get a lot of opportunities to perform in front of people. Yes, it’s the hardest one to take. – But it’s the best one.
– So valuable. So if you guys have that, perform as much as you can! Eddy: Mhm.
Brett: Because it’s… They say half of the learning is… on… – stage.
– Yeah. “But, but I get nervous!” Well, that’s the point. That’s the point. That’s why you go on stage and perform. – Yeah.
– It’s like how do you get over performance anxiety. – You don’t. You just do it.
– You just do it so much that… – You get used to it.
– Yeah, you get used to it. But in some way, it’s just kinda liberating cos once you’re performing, you start to get into it. And afterwards, you’re like “yes!” “De-ching!” It’s like level up. Mhm. Or level down self-esteem. But that’s okay cos it’s still a level-up! Yeah. So that’s the main one. Yeah… Nah, I remember like… Cos it was volunteering, basically like the whole string department. And you get to decide. You put your name down whether you wanted to perform. Yeah. And I think there were a lot of people that throughout the whole 4-year degree would… didn’t like even perform once. – And to me, that’s just such a waste of opportunity.
– Actually yeah. But again it’s like, maybe they’re not there to become performers? Yeah. – So…
– Exactly. But to me, I think it’s just… If you want to p… push your violin skills as much as possible, and performing something you’re insterested in- Brett: That’s the way. Definitely recommend you guys to do that. – The practice rooms, man… They were so dirty!
– Ohh… If your university has clean practice rooms, you’re so lucky. Oh my god… Ow… so dirty… There was just scribbles on the wall, horn spit. No, it’s just how- There’s gums stuck everywhere. It smells! – Yeah. OoHhHHhH!! Someone would like
– It smells! eat like chicken curry in the practice room before. Or like someone would practice with their bare foot. – Oh, that’s disgusting.
– in a sweaty day, and it smells like feet. – And I’m like…
– Ohh… And half the air condition in the rooms don’t work. – and it’s carpeted rooms.
– Yeah… And it’s like B.O. OhHhhHHh… Ugh… – I’m like remembering the smell!
– I know! I remember- And sometimes it feels like it’s sticky, you know, – it just sticks on you when you walk into the room.
– Yeah. – And you’re like “Oh my god…”
– Yeah. But we just pushed through cos we gotta practice! Gotta practice! You know, we, we… I used to think it was like, just our uni. But from what I’ve heard, – a lot of music unis around the world are like…
– Yeah… – I heard about even the best… most renowned…
– Even some very prestigious ones… – I think.
– We won’t name. But if you’re studying there, I think you know what we’re talking about. – *cough* J****d!
– *cough* C****s. – Jail, jail, jaillard.
– Yeah. You know what I end up doing half the time too? Cos there was never enough practice rooms, I would just practice outside. Brett: Yeah! Yeah, on the seats outside.
Eddy: On the seats. Yeah. Brett: We just practiced outside.
Eddy: And everyone used to like, look at me like… – “F**, this… who is this guy playing outside?”
– “What are you doing?” I’m like, I don’t care. I got an audition coming up. – I need to practice. Yeah.
– It’s just stressing me out. I need to practice. Did you ever have orchestral literature class? – with the great Morgs.
– Ohh… “Hey, Brett!” “When do… When was Mozart born?” Uh… “You need to know!” “Fail!” Every week you’ll just perf- The lecturer just pick a different piece of orchestral music, and the idea is like… to introduce you to orchestral music. – Hurray…
– It’s like “Yo, I can go on YouTube.” “A half these pieces I already know.” I know… And so, I mean… I ended up just like chatting to my friends. You know, I was just like *chatting* hahaha! Like being on my phone. Just being a bit of a rebel, I guess. The lecturer got really mad, and he was just like… “You! I’ve had enough of you talking!” “Get out of the lecture!” – You’re like “Okay.”
– “Get out now!” And I was just like… Okay, I will prac- Went to practice. – I actually just went straight to practice.
– That’s the best way. Piss your lecturer off. If it’s boring, you just leave. Oh man… All my friends were like “I’m so jealous you got an extra hour to practice,” “while I was just sitting there…” – I mean, I don’t recommend that type of behaviour.
– I know. Please be… – Respectful to your-
– an obedient, respectful student. I’m just gonna be practicing. You know what I hated in university? What? Referencing… OoHhHHhhHh!! Hey, you put your full stop before the bracket instead of afterwards, – so that’s just your whole academic degree gone.
– To this day, I’m just… I just don’t… I know. I can’t believe that affects your grades. It’s just referencing seems to me the most irrelevant- I mean, look, you can reference things. Yes, but… Why do you have to grade on “page dot?” It has to be- not p-a-g-e, but it has to be “p.54” instead of page. So like there’s no inherent information from there. But correct us if we’re wrong. It might be some actual value. Please comment below. – I mean, there probably is, in terms of like-
– Yeah. If you, if… – organizing databases and stuff, yeah?
– Yeah, exactly. But, – like, we’re here for violin performance major, you know?
– I know. To be honest, yeah. And then whatever research, we’re just trying to make our point. – Yeah.
– That’s it. Some of the research I did was alright though. But that was like one lecture that was awesome. None of mine was alright. Did you not have Emmerson? Oh, I did. – Emmerson was like, pretty good.
– Oh no, no, Emmerson was great, yeah. He was great. – But I mean the papers I wrote are just…
– Oh… Oh right, the papers. Whatever. Anyway! 1st year, I was very naive and innocent. I wanted to help people. And so, this guy… This is how he talked. He’s like a cellist, and he’s like “Hey man.” “My… I know this…” “referencing assignment’s due tomorrow.” “So, can you like send me your thing?” “I just need, I need something to like…” “just an idea.” “I need some help. Send me your assignment.” So I was like okay, I thought he was just gonna… model it? Just to see how it’s done. So I sent him the file. Freaking 1 week later, I get called to the freaking… academic, like, disciplina- disciplinary… – Disciplinary office.
– Uh… Yeah, office or whatever. And they’re like… “This is plagiarism.” I’m like “wtf?!” “What do you mean?” And he’s like… And then apparently, this guy that I gave my assignment to- for like reference, he literally submitted my entire assignment as is WITH MY NAME ON IT!! *laughs* I’m like “Holy moly!” And the worst part, you know what they said? Cos I’m like, look, I was just trying to- I was just trying to help him cos he wanted help. I didn’t know he was gonna submit my assignment. And she says something like “You’re not meant to even share the files of your assignment.” “That’s going against the protocols, and” “you took part in the act of plagiarism.” “Next time you do that, you get expelled.” I’m like… That’s called punishment for trying to help people. Good message. It’s like I should be the victim here. And I had to redo the assignment along with that dude. And then, I still remember to this day, he was like “I’m so sorry, bro.” “I’ll buy you a dinner as an apology.” You still owe me a dinner. – Hahahaha!
– It’s been 6 years, you still haven’t bought me that dinner! Oh, that’s funny! I don’t know. Side tangent! – In high school, I got a friend,
– Yeah. he got a C- for his assignment, and he was- – I know this story.
– It’s the funniest. He got a C-. Okay guys, C- is a bare pass. Anything lower, you fail in where we study. Mhm. And he got a C- for the assignment, he was like “Bro, this is bulls***!” “I wanna get it moderated!” So he takes it to another lecturer cos you can challenge it and say “This is unfair, I want it moderated.” And once it’s moderated, you can’t go back. No, that’s it. He got moderated to a D+! So he failed! What did he do afterwards? – He’s just… sad…
– Or is he like, just sad? So sad… Anyway. But uni life is fun. I think you meet a lot of friends there. You meet all your friends, initial friends there. – You have your groups.
– Yeah. You go on a journey together. Sometimes it’s great, some subjects are questionable, but most of it, it’s… – if it’s a good lecturer, definitely informative and useful?
– Mm. Some of our friends we still are close with today from uni. – Yeah, *inaudible* all from uni, and…
– Yeah. Yeah, I mean, it’s okay if you don’t know what you wanna do. Go to uni and enjoy it. And if you know what you wanna do, stick to it, and- You start projects on uni. Case in hand: TwoSet. We started that. We did! We started in uni. In the last year of uni. It wasn’t… like… part of a uni course. We just started on the side. (both) Yeah. I don’t know. I hope this was very insightful for you guys. Meet a lot of people, be friends with them. – You don’t know who will impact your life or career.
– Your life. A lot of people meet the love of their lives in uni. That’s true. Not that we recommend you be doing that. You should be practicing. “Oh my god! I ship Brett and Eddy so much!” Next fan fiction, freaking- to people because they might submit it with your name on it. And you get in trouble. What else? Skip lectures to practice. I’m- We’re like giving the most- It’s just a story. Story time! – Yeah, story time!
– Not advice time. Story time! Practice! Buy our merch. Ow.

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100 thoughts on “What it’s Really Like Studying Music in University”

  1. IoOrganism says:

    Hey, TwoSet
    . I'm glad I found your channel, It's very informative and entertaining.
    To give context, I'm a lover of classical music (not exclusively, but it's one of my favorite genres of music) and a "budding musician" whom isn't classically trained.

    I've got a somewhat serious question about music universities. Does any music university focus heavily on teaching students how to compose original music? As incredible as it is to play +70 year old masterpieces, Isn't overly focusing on that limiting students creativity as musicians?
    I understand the importance of learning techniques from classical pieces but wouldn't musicians be better off writing original pieces (perhaps 21st century neoclassical music)? Better off *financially*, Due to having a higher demand for one specifically to perform a piece (I.e. "rockstar status").

    To me, as someone whom hasn't attended a music university, It feels like music universities are producing extremely talented performers whom all play the same music/pieces. Thus devaluing these individuals' "market value" (I hate using terms like that). Where as more mainstream musicians/producers, (E.g. pop, hip hop, rock, dance, R&B, etc) all write, in contrast to classical music, very simplistic songs but because they are new songs and they are the original artist, (At least in the eyes of the public, since many pop stars don't write their own music) they receive far more attention than their classical musician counterparts.

    What are classically trained musicians' options of employment after graduating? All I can think of is being fortunate enough to be employed by a Symphony Orchestra, a Philharmonic Orchestra or working in the film/TV industry.

    I have nothing but respect for musicians, Which is why the under-appreciation of these talented individuals is so heartbreaking to me.
    Your brilliant idea to have the "first crowdfunded classical world tour" is so heartwarming. Thanks for using your platform for good, I love it when people think of the bigger picture.

    Thanks for everything that you guys do and for any insight you guys can give me.

  2. Machio Naruzo says:

    Anyone else automatically go into a coma when you hear gymnopede?

  3. Tirza Kharisma says:

    I barely passed my ABRSM Grade 8 when I was 17 😦😧😨 And there 13 year old Eddy passed the highest test.

  4. judywu says:

    Eddy: you might meet the love of your life…
    And these two met each other… lol

  5. lotus81 says:

    One summer, my orchestra teacher made everyone switch instruments. I also had a crash course on the alto clef. 3 months playing the Viola made me realize that I was more passionate about playing the Violin than I originally thought.

  6. siddhi patil says:

    being in Uni in Canberra and I'm very surprised how true all these things are, but instead of music I'm doing Architecture and I still remember how cocky I was with my drawing skills and now.. let's just forget it. Uni does make you humble and break your dreams.

  7. Allenore says:

    Referencing is actually one of the things I find annoying as well in the uni, I know it is important to reference and avoid plagiarism but for every single assessment that I did, references used up pretty much my time

  8. milova says:

    so funny that film school is like the exact opposite kind of social trajectory – it's just filled with a bunch of nerds who start out wanting to be directors and do everything themselves and don't know how to work with other people but then to progress you have to get better at working with other people and socialize a lot so that by the end of school you never miss any chance to network and hang out with your classmates. The antisocial parts of me often wish I had gone to music school instead, but then I'd have had to get good at music theory, and it's still just like fuckin incomprehensible to me despite my music professor mom trying to explain it for my entire childhood lol.

  9. Nur Hidayah says:

    Referencing!!!! I hate tht too!!!!!!

  10. Katy B says:

    my first week of uni was avoiding all the drinking parties with the excuse I needed to practise for my first lesson 😅

    edit: try a dirty piano. when the keys are slimy. it's so disgusting 😨😨😨

  11. sammie pulos says:

    I feel u, post graduate depression

  12. nrnryn says:

    I'm not a musician nor am I planning to be… but listening to you guys speak about how you desperately just wanted to practice and get better at playing was really inspiring. The way you reminisced about your young, passionate selves during your uni days really made me want to do better and try harder.

  13. Katmuss Woodwinds says:

    Lol at least you don't have to breathe more than normal on violin.

    Signed

    A (bass) clarinettist #breatheproperly #nothanks

  14. luchy2234 says:

    11:03 there are pages that make the reference for you. You just introduce all the information or the name of the book and the webpage does the referencing for you automatically. We have to reference literally everything so webpage is the way to go.

  15. Eunice Angel Cruz says:

    I literally thought my internet connection was bad coz even after putting the vid in HD, their faces were still blurred until I looked at the mic and was like "ooooh, it's focusing on the mic. The mic looks nice…"

  16. peaceofkake says:

    This video was 100% joy!!!! I love school stories! You should bring some of your friends from university to tell their stories as well. If they can't make it, just have them film themselves where ever they are and they can send you their video files.

  17. Sahil Bhalerao says:

    where did you go?

  18. Matthew Fletcher says:

    Violin Majors: "I would just practice all the time"
    Vocal Majors: ….

  19. Dream Cardigan says:

    Truly. Never. Send your homeworks to other people. Never ever.

  20. 88Rose Rd says:

    Horn spit everywhere

  21. everything is salad says:

    What's the name of the piece playing at 4:44 in the background?

  22. Janni XIV says:

    "You come into uni, thinking you're the best and then you quickly get humbled by reality" – Maaaaaan! This is sooooo true!!! 😔😌

  23. Arijit Kumar Haldar says:

    Okay…a story time from your fans here…so…here we have 3 years of nursery..then 12 years of school…then uni…anyways..I was in my 6th year in school…when a similar incident happened. We had a Mathematics Exam..and when the results came..our teacher was distributing our answer sheets to see where we did wrong…got my name called…went there…boom!!..I had scored just 23% (My handwriting was a bit strange…but I was too terrified after seeing the marks to notice that). 5 minutes later..got my name called again…got another answer sheet…now 98% . I was dumbstruk..looked closer..saw a classmate's name written in tiny letters on a corner of the first answer sheet. And our teacher hadn't even noticed it..lol. And..our classmate..the girl had apparantly copied my name and the first answer..but somehow couldn't carry on her copying. She got rusticated from school..pretty sad..but..well..people copy names too

  24. hasfari Afi says:

    OMG referencing def, especially when ur studying master 🙁

  25. Anna Sfakianaki says:

    What is the first video you guys made? It would be fun if you commented on it!!

  26. Lora Z says:

    Why people so bugged by the mic? I like having it in the shot. It's reality.

  27. Alyssa Rahardja says:

    HE GOT HIS LMUS AT 13 WHAT WHAT

  28. Vgamefrk1 says:

    I feel you. My university practice rooms used to be the old girls dorm. They stripped everything to make the rooms. It gets so hot and the windows don’t open.

  29. Vgamefrk1 says:

    I feel you. My university practice rooms used to be the old girls dorm. They stripped everything to make the rooms. It gets so hot and the windows don’t open.

  30. klonoa VE says:

    Honestly, the analism from lecturers about referencing etc is mostly so that you know how it has to be done if you publish anything yourself (professionalism)
    ….
    which is absolutely pointless when there are 10 different referencing techniques that are used!!
    (science background btw)

  31. Alexandra A says:

    So here's the 101 on referencing………….. It's actually important. You ever see like, forty different name variations for one and the same thing? That's because a bunch of people didn't transcribe the source properly and just did whatever they wanted. I know it's tedious work but following the guidelines helps a lot. That way information systems kan be kept nice and tidy and much more efficient for all. Sincerely, 3rd year student of information science and librarianship.

  32. John Bewley says:

    "you go in thinking you're the best, then you get humbled"

    As the only violist when I went, I was never humbled.

  33. No, It's Patrick I says:

    The story he told about plagiarism is almost exactly like what happened to me last week, except it was a set of 8 essays someone copied almost exactly. I got an honor code strike or whatever and it’s on my record now .. I know how it feels 😞👊

  34. I live on a tropical island says:

    As an English major, fuck reference

  35. justcallmerachel says:

    i clicked on this video thinking i would relate to it as a music uni student too, but i guess my country's school system is just SO different lmaoo

  36. Laura Kitty says:

    lol i might go to music university but idk

  37. blackspacepants says:

    Petition for 2set to review a fanfic about them!!!!!!

  38. Sam Lai says:

    bold of you to assume i ever had the self-esteem to believe i was good when i entered college let alone now

  39. BlaC Blood says:

    the camera keeps focusing on the mic :((

  40. Kiptops says:

    People should hire procrastinating college medical students to clean practice rooms.

  41. Yin Fung says:

    Yup, I totally agree about the odor of the practice rooms. Most disgusting part is when you realize all the most inappropriate things non-music major students do in there when they manage to sneak in… I was basically traumatized for a semester. It got reported though so practice rooms were installed with code locks.

  42. Helena Rosno says:

    I’m in my sophomore year at college as an English major and taking 16hrs (so not too bad). I stopped playing violin freshmen year because I didn’t have time or a place to practice, but this year I navigated my way to the practice rooms. I still don’t have time or a locker in the building so I walk to the building with my backpack and violin at about 6:30am and practice 7-10 MWFS and 7-9 T&Tr (I can’t play on Sundays oof) and then carry my case to all of my classes and sometimes go back to the practice rooms and practice another hour or so before going home. The problem is that I don’t have an instructor anymore and I’m a poor college student so I can’t pay for one and I don’t know what to do with myself. I can’t drop the violin again, but I also can’t change my major because I love English just as much as the violin. Idk what to do or how I can improve my playing or what I’m even improving my playing for.
    Sorry for the rant. I’ll try to figure it out

  43. Bang Chan needs to rest says:

    is the cam focusing on the mic 😂

  44. Ikram Hamizi says:

    The music room in my university was rumored to be haunted, and it is actually always chilly.

  45. Karin Hendriks says:

    I love how practicing is what they do when they skip lectures. That's like the least rebellious act you could do but okay 😂👏 #truelinglingwannabes

  46. 이내일 NaeIl Lee says:

    15:02 "Oh my god! I ship Brett and Eddy so much!" LOL I didn't expected Eddy would say that

  47. AlOsSoN says:

    3:09 synchronized head tilt haha

  48. earla manny says:

    15:03 me: coughcOUGH

  49. Silverskipper17 says:

    I thought every school had to do those workshops. My school's workshops are mandatory, though we actually call it "Repertoire." Depending on what division of Rep we have, we have to perform pieces of music a certain amount of times per year. We are separated by instrument as well, so all the voice majors performed in front of other voice majors, violins with other violinists, etc. We then get feedback from the heads of the department. I agree; it is an amazing experience, and some of the exercises the teachers give you to improve your technique can be incredibly helpful.

    Also, about the practice rooms, I haven't run into any HUGE issues with them yet. They are in the same hallway as our little lounge area, so all the people eating a bunch of stuff are never in the actual rooms. I think the biggest problem I've had with them is one idiot that kept going into one of them when no one was there and pulling the keys off of the piano. Disgrace.

    Sorry for the long comment. I just got back to school, and I'm excited to share my experiences with others.

  50. J L says:

    Don't ever appeal your grade. Professors are Dicks. It happened to me I appeal an assignment that I got C+ and worked so hard on it and I appealed it and got a D. Also, the professor who I appealed that marked my assignment didn't even follow the same requirements that were used for the assignment itself and marking criteria. She used her own which made no sense at all. My final grade before the appeal was C+ and after C. However, they forget to change my grade from a C+ to a C because their so disorganized at my university and I threaten them with an academic lawyer or I was going to appeal the appeal. But, I made my case with 11 emails I sent them and I asked for their reasons this teacher gave me a D and she sent a response of like 3 sentences that were so vague that I literally listed everything in her response I did do when she said I didn't. Also, its suppose to be confidential and the head of the program mentioned her gender and I could've used that against them if I wanted. But, I was just so sick of the BS. I'm doing double major history and philosophy. It's funny because the teacher who gave me a C+ also gave me a B on an assignment that I knew was shit and I thought that grade was generous but when I actually do good on an assignment I put a week of effort into he gives me a C+. I'm very good at getting grades but sometimes they make such unclear and garage assignments you just wonder what's the point.

  51. Smarmy Fellow says:

    two take aways for me. brett got viola-ted in his first week. eddy has a long memory.

  52. Clara He says:

    no one:

    eddy: oh yeah i did my lmus when i was 13..

    please someone reply and tell me that lmus was easier back then.. my self esteem just hit a brick wall and died

  53. Emg Ger says:

    I think there would be an awful lot of material for a movie about music uni. In the same way that "Fame" highlighted the drama of a performing arts school. You guys should look into that 😉

  54. Harriette says:

    I did a year of music uni in my hometown. I was told I could take classical studies, theory etc (I could not). I started and they said they couldn't find a sax, clarinet or flute tutor for me and I would have to pay for my own. Safe to say I swiftly left.

  55. Maram Sholeh says:

    I am studying business and economics and I am about to do references and I am freaking out because of these little things. Just for learning to make data basis …

  56. CELLE says:

    0:48 "pratice" LOOOOL

  57. Fira Syam says:

    U GUYS R SO OUT OF FOCUUUUUS

  58. arsinoe autumn says:

    damn brett looks so good omg 0:52

  59. Aureli Osle says:

    You have to "pratice" more! 0:50 😀 😂

  60. soy sauce says:

    I would want to see more videos like this. I'd love to learn about your experiences as musicians. Also how'd you two meet?

  61. AnGeL Ululululu says:

    Wait, i'm confused as a new subscriber
    They both already graduated???? What's their job now??? I suddenly confused 😅😅

  62. Khuong Lu says:

    LMus at the age of 13 is amazing, I'm 12 and I'm still studying for aMus

  63. NerdPro says:

    What is the piano piece background music at 5:20?

  64. nicolegend says:

    never mind shipping, i just think it's really sweet how they were talking about how you can meet people who will become important and influential in your life during school and it made brett think of eddy. like that's friendship goals, baby.

  65. Bang Supa says:

    skip lecture to practice
    DAMN im skip lecture to GAMING PARTY
    what a misreable live i have

  66. Grace Nelson says:

    aw I love taking my piano outside to practice

  67. floofybunnyz says:

    "Meet a lot of people"
    Me: is a third year and has one friend

  68. frog says:

    Hey what was that anime you guys kept using?

  69. Nayalin Guzman says:

    "oH mY gOsH i ShiP bReTt aNd EdDy sO mUcH"

  70. Eric Doh says:

    as soon as I hear eddy casually say that he did his Lmus at 13 and I looking at myself doing Lmus at 15

  71. Val K says:

    2nd year of uni and I still can count my friends with a single hand-

  72. Yeontan's SugaDaddy says:

    I haven't even practiced since I was 11 and I didn't do classical music, yet I'm like five videos deep into a binge of this channel… I didn't even know music universities existed

  73. Zita Chan says:

    About referencing:

    Referencing is to give proper recognition to the author.

    e.g. If twoset publish something really dope, and your readers want to include it into their work, how do they thank you? Of course, by referencing twoset!!

    There are different referencing methods, I am using the Harvard Referencing Method.

    These methods are developed to clearly show who should be thanked. Imagine how a mess it would be for everyone to give their thanks in their own words. No one would know who are you giving thanks to.

    Thus, you can kind of understand why professors are picky for you not following the referencing template, as if like you are not saying thank you properly…

    Hate it, but you gotta do it.

  74. Reiko A. Souma says:

    Ah, theory classes…all four semesters of theory and sight-singing/ear training classes were when I got ridiculed by a few people in each class because I already had nearly twenty years of composition experience (self-taught) and twelve to fourteen years of music/vocal performance experience.

    I had to remind them that I have to learn just as much as they do for my degree. 😶

  75. chloé says:

    I study composition at the conservatory in Antwerp, so like, already giving out my cv to nearby McDonald's

  76. Hanan A says:

    YES IDK WHY MUSIC PRACTICE STUDIOS ARE ALWAYS SOOOO DIRTTYYYYYYY
    my music studios are meant for everyday classes as well, the worse part is i got an allergic reaction to the carpeted floors because they were so old it basically crumbled and dusty. if you touched it the carpet dusts would stick to your hand bfishfhiushhnfifnh

  77. Forbiddencolours says:

    If you guys made a podcast, I’d listen RELIGIOUSLY

  78. imamiachia says:

    0:48 "PRATICE"
    I guess he skipped English class to practice as well … ;p <3

  79. StannCat says:

    Debt + debt = start another degree to put off paying it

  80. nicolò paganini says:

    Does Eddy play a guanieri

  81. Amanda Ruiz says:

    I ship it.

  82. Underwater_Symphony says:

    he got AMAS when he was 13
    i'm still stuck in AMEB @ age 17

    wat is mai laifeu

  83. KY says:

    You guys’ dedication and passion towards violin is so cool.. I wish I could have a clear straightforward goals too xD

  84. Nash Tara says:

    4:53 – 5:00 Brett sipping his tea is the single most adorable thing I've ever seen…

  85. Tessa Jones says:

    A professor in my previous uni got criminalised for plagiarism, she didn't correctly reference her own previous book

  86. Judy in the Sky says:

    One of my siblings got a B.F.A and M.F.A. in (a brass instrument) performance. Her career went nowhere. Why? Because she didn’t practice. This is not a joke. Her first Master’s recital WAS the joke. What a clam bake!

  87. Rahal Walisundara says:

    I really wanna know how you guys met….

  88. Gaming Potatoe says:

    The background music at 4:14 is Debussy: Clair de lune.

    (I know that this song is very well known but after some scrolling I still see people asking for this song)

  89. z c h says:

    MORE STORY TIMEEEEE!!!!

  90. Joseph Hart says:

    Damn near half of the video is out of focus

  91. Alba FV says:

    8:03 out of context…….. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

  92. Petra Elek says:

    i love both of you guys, but move that damn microphone, or switch to manual focus, we all got to analyze every pixel of the microphone, we want to see your faces lmao

  93. Forte says:

    I tried being the good kid but… 😂

  94. Apotalogia LxF says:

    15:24 THAT GIGGLE WAS SO CUTE OMG

  95. Daniel Bernoulli says:

    I was wondering why they'd spend money on uni just to go and practice then i realized that theyre Australian

  96. bicha zag says:

    I felt the pain of the refrences 😥😥… dont mind me i'll just cry in pharmacist thesis 🤧🤧

  97. Regan Bergquist says:

    We have the workshop thing but we call it studio. It’s essentially a weekly masterclass with our professor

  98. Angelique Opeña says:

    The paper Brett is holding at 0:47 says PRATICE instead of PRACTICE 😂 Ling Ling ain't amused

  99. Lindsey Caldwell says:

    Last time I was in a university practice room there was a flute, a clarinet, a french horn, a trombone, and a tuba all piled in a 5×5 room (with a horribly out of tune piano) warming up for an audition for an honor band. And there was no AC. With five people. Playing wind instruments. We couldn't breathe.

  100. Mohamed Emara says:

    I think you're talking about APA citation there . Not 100% sure

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