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The Secretive Book That Names All the Cheaters in Vegas

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Welcome to Las Vegas—the oasis that went from a settlement, to an outpost, to a haven
for construction workers on the hoover dam to blow off some dam steam. Sin city can and
does tolerate plenty but there’s one cardinal sin that the city just doesn’t tolerate:
cheating. So what do poor multi-billionaire casino owners
do when someone starts beating the house? Well, cheating in a casino is actually a felony
although in most cases, depending on the severity, perpetrators are just escorted out. Anytime
a casino encounters a cheater they take down their information and pass on their names
to paid agencies that compile and look into the cheaters. The most well-known and perhaps
notorious of these is Griffin Investigations. Founded in 1967 by Robert R. Griffin and his
wife at the time, Beverly, this mom-and-pop detective agency considered themselves a “White
Hat” in the gambling world—they’re the good guys but of course so is the guy who
made Scrubs Season 9 according to the guy who made Scrubs season 9.
Apparently, Robert Griffin had a gift for remembering faces and kept a log of criminals
and cheaters in a three-ring binder called the Griffin Book. At first, Griffin was reluctant
to go digital due to a distrust of computers, but his wife eventually convinced him to work
with modern technology and the book grew into a multi-volume database with dossiers on known-cheaters
in the gambling world updated in real time. If a cheater was in the area, Griffin’s
clients would receive a fax outlining the cheater’s most recent alias, height, weight,
date of birth, and security photos of them from where they were last spotted, but Griffin
gained his reputation as the expert after taking down the infamous MIT Blackjack Team
in the early ‘90s. This MIT Blackjack team used the movie cliché
technique of card counting. There’s even a whole movie about the team… with Kevin
Spacey who’s clearly a good actor since he convincingly played a law abiding, moral
citizen. Card counting, you see, is the fully legal process of gaining an advantage while
gambling by counting cards. In Blackjack, players need a combined card value higher
than the dealer’s, but that value can’t exceed 21 or else you’re out. There are
fixed amounts of cards and decks involved, so card counting is the practice of weighing
your bets based on the odds of the next card while keeping in mind the value of the cards
on the table. Since players are using math and logic, this isn’t technically cheating,
but it does label card counters as “advantage players” which is Casino-speak for “nerds
that lose us money.” Casinos in Vegas are legally allowed to ask
card counters to beat it and bar them from returning as long as there’s no other prejudice
involved. It’s easy enough to ban one player but it’s tougher to try and ban teams of
card counters which is exactly why the MIT Blackjack Team was founded. After having existed
off-and-on for years since players, you know, graduated, the team was reborn in the early
‘90s as a registered business run by three of the former players. This team legally raised
a million dollars from investors to gamble away and win back which is a pretty good sign
that their methods were reliable. In the two years after its rebirth, the team
grew to 80 people and their players simultaneously hit casinos around the world winning millions.
Whenever the casinos would ban the members they caught, new members would take their
place like a Hydra head, or interns. Soon, the members of the MIT Blackjack team found
it impossible to go into a casino unrecognized. They even tried disguise and drag. Unable
to get in anywhere, the team found out that they’d been outed by Griffin Investigations.
Once Griffin had realized that the brilliant MIT Blackjack Team Members were not brilliant
enough to leave out their Cambridge, Massachusetts addresses in their hotel reservations, they
entered all MIT students into their databases just to be safe—simple solution, but it
worked. With their identities blown and wigs snatched, the MIT team found it impossible
to play, so it was dissolved by 1994. Griffin’s legacy, however, didn’t stay
golden. In 2000, advantage players James Grosjean and Michael Russo were arrested while playing
at Caesars Palace under the charge of cheating after winning over $18,000 dollars from an
inexperienced dealer at poker. Though they were experienced players, everything they
were doing was legal. The officers, however, believed that they were using illegal means
based off information given to them by Griffin. Griffin’s page on Russo categorized him
as a known-cheater and cardbender. Russo disputed this, and the pair took the case to court.
A jury agreed that the entries had been libel and Griffin had to pay 25k in punitive damages
to Grosjean and Russo. Soon after, Griffin Investigations filed for
bankruptcy. In 2008, Beverley Griffin said they’d been caught up in payments and that
she’d taken over for her ex-husband in 2003. Robert R. Griffin died in 2016. Griffin Investigations
is still running, but its site hasn’t been updated since the early 2000s. James Grosjean,
however, was entered into the Blackjack Hall of Fame in 2006 and he takes personal credit
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100 thoughts on “The Secretive Book That Names All the Cheaters in Vegas”

  1. Danish malik says:

    do anyone else think, this is the best youtube channel

  2. phileon 232 says:

    Sources?

  3. Avarosa says:

    “White hatter”, more like r/HailCorporate.

  4. Kayleb’s Trains and more says:

    I live in background 4:30 to 5:06

  5. jonathan lavezzi says:

    $25,000 that’s nothing for a company

  6. Indiana Thrills says:

    What if you just hit an incredible lucky winning streak and weren't cheating or even experienced?

  7. rejvaik says:

    So basically if you want to cheat in Vegas you take down the investigators first

  8. Krullenbos says:

    What is that Scrubs "season 9" you're talking about? That doesn't exist boy

  9. Brick Life says:

    hahaha this is so funny this book

  10. Gevani Lauzon says:

    LMAO THE CARDBENDER HAILING FROM THE CARD NATION 3:59

  11. steve holbrom says:

    Sam Denby aka Master of Segways

  12. Eric J says:

    The reason they don't arrest card counters is that counting cards isn't actually cheating. The casinos like it call it "cheating," but they're lying. Think about it: it's literally just paying close attention to the game, you're not surreptitiously gaining any information that other players don't have – how can that possibly be illegal? Now, If you were, say, using loaded dice or marked cards, things like that ARE legally considered cheating and you would most likely be arrested, assuming they could prove it.

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  14. Marco Reitano says:

    Why isn’t mi ex in the list

  15. xander10 says:

    Your pronunciation of Grosjean is pretty bad, F1 would teach you that.

  16. John the Bastard says:

    It's called the phone book. They're listed under "Casino".

  17. StableEntropy says:

    Anyone else notice the old fashion shake cup at 2:40 ? Cause I don’t know if that was their actual background but that’s a shake cup design lol

  18. Abdega says:

    I was in a casino one time and I was asked by casino staff to show my ID randomly as I was walking around, supposedly it was to see if I was old enough to be there, but with the weird way the staff held my ID, I think they were checking it with the “eye in the sky” to make sure I wasn’t in the Griffin Book or something

  19. Build-a-Buddha says:

    The only time I got banned from a Casino was in Fallout NV when I gave my character 10 luck.

    … By the way, it's bullshit how the gambling games in that game read your character's luck stat. I mean, I understand WHY, but it defeats the purpose of blackjack if you have a calculated, predetermined chance of winning or losing.

  20. Chaw Den says:

    casino it self's already a cheater

  21. REPROGRAM says:

    0:14
    Underground City?

  22. dr phill says:

    The biggest crime in las Vegas is the ticket prices

    Las Vegas shooting: cries in gunshots

  23. François Caron says:

    Very easy way to eliminate card counting: use one deck of cards for one game only. Card counting relies on multiple games being played with a fixed number of decks of cards. If every single game started with one fresh deck of cards, card counting becomes useless because there's no follow-up for card counting to work properly.

  24. ZerglingPack says:

    As a casino surveillance agent, I will say right now that no casino I have worked at bans players for card counting. Your face and name(if we have it) are entered into multiple databases and your photo is sent out to notify other casinos that you are active in Las Vegas. Card counting is NOT illegal and we know that, but also know that we have the right to refuse service. Casinos are a business after all so they are there to make money for THEMSELVES. Card bending, marking, peeking, ext. are a whole other story.
    Casinos don't have to cheat to win your money. All the games are already set to make the house win. But I won't defend slot machines they 100% need better regulations.

  25. David Hedges says:

    Card counting is not cheating … almost none f the "Cheaters" actually broke any of the rules they were just very good at the games …
    …and if you ever went to MIT you are now labelled as a cheater .. even if you never gambled – please sue for Libel …

  26. satyris410 says:

    grow-zhawn

  27. HumanChalk says:

    2:15 Does that say penis?

  28. David Schlessinger says:

    Nothing quite like developing a system in your own mind that offers you a fair advantage…and then you're kicked out…for using your reasoning.

  29. de132 says:

    The pronunciation of Grosjean 🤦‍♂️

  30. Bad Triceratops says:

    Here in sin city, we have a museum and there is a cabinet with artifacts related to cheating and how they were used, such as a “frankenstein bill” made with a hundred dollar bill and a one dollar bill. The edges of the 100 and 1 are cut off and the 100 edges are put on the center of the 1

  31. Zuroslav Zuromir says:

    "7'9'' noticeable plane obsession" BANE?

  32. jose chavez says:

    I thought this meant cheating as in cheating in your gf. Cuz man I neve get caught

  33. Zion J says:

    lol the guy at 1:16 is playing Minecraft look at the reflection in his glasses

  34. HJ GE says:

    Why are you allowed to ban skilled players? Because card counting is skill.

    Seems rather odd to me.

  35. TheManelich says:

    But I must explain to you how all this mistaken idea of denouncing pleasure and praising pain was born and I will give you a complete account of the system, and expound the actual teachings of the great explorer of the truth, the master-builder of human happiness. No one rejects, dislikes, or avoids pleasure itself, because it is pleasure, but because those who do not know how to pursue pleasure rationally encounter consequences that are extremely painful. Nor again is there anyone who loves or pursues or desires to obtain pain of itself, because it is pain, but because occasionally circumstances occur in which toil and pain can procure him some great pleasure. To take a trivial example, which of us ever undertakes laborious physical exercise, except to obtain some advantage from it? But who has any right to find fault with a man who chooses to enjoy a pleasure that has no annoying consequences, or one who avoids a pain that produces no resultant pleasure?"

  36. kushi Chowdhury says:

    GEEZ. this may sound silly but when i first saw the video, i thought it was talking about cheaters. As in thoes who abandon their partner in a relationship. Lol 😅

  37. George Doty-Williams says:

    Was the Kevin Spacey part really necessary?

  38. DeathbyPixels says:

    Just don’t gamble

  39. Farmer Tyler says:

    We were taught how to count cards in my eighth grade math class

  40. Bluey says:

    hey lois

  41. Aceraloth says:

    What kind of o wait los angelos casinos o not interested any more

  42. SLAP N CLAP says:

    Courier 6 A S C E N D S

  43. Gunung Merapiapi says:

    That is one Hella heist movie soundtrack 😂

  44. Aryrix 1 says:

    So if you are just good at the game you get banned?

  45. Cathandez says:

    You make so many un-needed snide political comments. Your videos would be better without them. I cringe every single time.

  46. Bob Robert says:

    i don't care what you say but Eliza Coupe made season nine watchable

  47. popen arey says:

    The house always win! Mafia style

  48. Zo Fryer says:

    I'm in that book for card counting. I thought it wouldn't matter in Atlantic City. I was wrong. They flagged me down in the lobby and let me know I was not welcome to gamble.

  49. Lee Llama says:

    all students in kakegurui shouldve been listed by now lmao

  50. RUSapache says:

    So they basically ban players that win.
    So they olny allow to lose in casino.

  51. Gabe Lost says:

    The best advice I have ever been given:
    1. Have a budget
    2. Leave the moment you strike it big

  52. Andrew Ince says:

    OHHHH!! That Spacey burn is insane.

  53. Phelan05 Manley says:

    SOOOOOO secretive

  54. lonelyPorterCH says:

    Unfair, they're just good at math, why should this be cheating? ;P

  55. Jatin Suri says:

    My math teacher in my school was part of the original MIT counting cards team. He’s SUPER chill and really nice. He has a doctorate. Just wanted to add that

  56. Party poster 555 says:

    “Noticeable plane obsession.” Same here bud

  57. Kim-Jong Un 100 million subs or I declare war says:

    Who else thought this was about cheating in relationships?

  58. Elijah Ekiridzo says:

    The biggest snitch book in the world

  59. movies and more says:

    But arent the casinos cheating u out of ure money?

  60. Porky Studios says:

    Not sponsored by Hover?
    *IMPOSSIBLE

  61. Mat33 says:

    You cheated on skillshare!

  62. Jason Mascelli says:

    CMON MIT LETS GET SICKENINGGGG

  63. Neonic Plays says:

    Casinos should legally be forced to keep players in unless they are a danger

  64. Alex Kavanagh says:

    150 years 7'9'' stocky build

  65. Billy Jean The Meme Machine says:

    Peter Griffin industries

  66. Keelle Gaming says:

    I’m sorry but Kevin spacey has not been convicted yet of anything so he is currently innocent

  67. Jonathan Simpson says:

    So what happens if you're inexperienced and just get super lucky and win thousands?

  68. cadenr06 says:

    Wait… did he not mention planes other than the 7’9 thing?

  69. Nitex says:

    Gonna just scroll over the part where in griffins statement they define cardbending as having the telekinetic ability to bend cards…

  70. Unitingfish 9867 says:

    Promo code David

  71. Ethan Hayden says:

    1m views later

    NOT SO SECRET NOW

  72. Matthew says:

    By cheating you mean winning by card counting.

  73. Obie Chan says:

    Cheaters in Vegas…how could they cheat on their partners

  74. Konstantin Grams says:

    gambling industry: makes money by ripping people off
    gambling industry gets ripped off
    gambling industry: OH NOO YOU CANT DO THAT :(((((

  75. Eneco says:

    Yep, it's cheating when a player does, but not the casino. I guess when you make the rules they don't apply to you.

  76. PrettyMuch HorseBoiCurtis says:

    Me: sees title and sweats

  77. sxvrl says:

    What happens in vegas, stays in vegas

  78. King13Nightmare says:

    The casinos are in paradise outside of vegas

  79. Tauratrihon YT says:

    Fuck the casino sistem.
    If the students can win, let them do so.

  80. KiranasOfRizon says:

    Considering that card counting isn't cheating by definition, Nevada should pass a law making it illegal for casinos to ban players for card counting, and allowing players to sue them for defamation for labeling them as cheaters when they aren't.

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  82. TheAres1999 says:

    :12 "a haven for construction workers on the Hoover Dam"
    "When I got this assignment, I thought there'd be more gambling."

  83. CherubiJubell says:

    The casino can cheat, but when we do it, it's a problem.

  84. LegendSkys says:

    4:24 F1 fans are triggered
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    Groh-jon

  85. Ethan Gonzalez says:

    Sorry but it’s pronounced Grow-sean (kinda like Sean but with a J(I don’t really know how to type it ok)) come on I thought u knew French

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  87. II Christopher II says:

    Hey I live in Vegas

  88. Essa says:

    This is what happens to the students who tell the teacher about homework

  89. Skewed Priorities says:

    "the ability to telekinetically influence cards"… lol what are they smoking

  90. Eric Goodemote says:

    Check out 3:57 – the Griffin report on Michael Russo claims he has telekinetic powers. Weird.

  91. DJT FOREVER says:

    Scrubs season 9? Season 7 wasn't as good as season 8 either.

  92. Shadow program says:

    not a fucking secret anymore is it?

  93. Christian Rowe says:

    Anyone else sees a shadow Yoda on the right

  94. Randumb says:

    1,000th Comment!

    I’ll be taking my million dollars in cash

  95. Elliot Commentates says:

    I know someone who was in the 21 group. He showed me how to count cards and now I am a god at blackjack.

  96. Kaiser Wilhelm says:

    If a 150 year old, 7’9”, stocky built man comes to your casino, I think him cheating is the least of your concerns

  97. Malta says:

    The fact that card counting is illegal speaks to the casinos scumminess and that you’re not supposed to win. It’s a shame.

  98. Levente Barkász says:

    My ears hurt when he says Grosjean like that, I assume it's pronounced "Grohjhaaan" as it's a french originic surname

  99. Sneak ___Real says:

    Scrubs season 9, oof

  100. Rob Jay says:

    The major casinos now use "Face Scanning" tech as well. They can spot people in their database as soon as they walk into a casino. And they ban people for winning too much as well, even if they don't cheat.

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