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Sex, Gender and Bullshit Part 6: Are science and gender studies in conflict? | We The Internet TV

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Dr. Soh, you have a PhD in Neuroscience and you’re a science journalist. So, what the f*** is your problem with gender studies? [DR. SOH] Uh… (laughs) It started off so well. (intro music) [DR. SOH] I mean, the biggest thing I would say is that their ideas are based in theory, not in any sort of empirical facts. And that they denigrate science because they claim that their theories should trump the scientific research that currently exists. [LOU] So what are some of those theories that you have the biggest problem with. [DR. SOH] Well, I’d say the biggest one is this idea that gender is a social construct. It definitely is not. Another thing I would say is this idea that biological sex and gender identity and sexual orientation are all disparate things, and again, they are not, they’re all interlinked. [LOU] Are there differences between the sexes? [DR. SOH] There definitely are and in the brain there are biologically based differences, not due to socialization. [LOU] Because when I think about it, it’s like, homelessness, autism, suicide, mass shootings, mansplaining… seems like the ladies just can’t compete with the boys. [DR. SOH] And that’s the thing, you don’t see these scholars complaining that suicide rates aren’t higher in women Or that women aren’t getting longer prison sentences to be on par with men. (music) [LOU] Can you explain the difference between biology and social constructs? [DR. SOH] Well, this idea that when people say “Gender is a social construct,” that when we’re born, we’re blank slates. So, we don’t have any innate preferences and all the behaviours that we show are learned. So people believe this pretty much from conception that any differences we see between boys and girls is due to parents and teachers, which is not true. Versus biology, which is hard science and has actual quantitative data to back it up. (music) [LOU] You’ve written about brain differences in men and women. Can you tell us a little bit about those? [DR. SOH] Yes, so there is a very large and long-standing body of research showing that there are differences in the brain, both in structure and function, between men and women. So the third interstitial nucleus of the anterior hypothalamus is consistently larger in men than women. We also see with white matter, so this is the connective tissue in the brain, there is a greater number of connections running from the front to the back of the brain in men. [LOU] So the brain wipes front to back? (silence) Okay, uh… (music) [LOU] Should someone know what they’re talking about when it comes to science before they teach a subject that makes claims about a field of science? [DR. SOH] Absolutely, and the frightening thing is, from my understanding most of these academics don’t have any sort of understanding of the scientific method, I don’t know that they know much about biology. If they did, it would seem that the claims they make then are intentionally misrepresenting what the science says. A number of people have reached out to me to tell me that they’ll publicly deny these sex differences and biology, but they know what the truth is. They do it because they are afraid that research findings showing differences between men and women are going to be used to justify sexism. So I definitely think if you want to have any sort of valuable input on this topic, you need to read these studies, you can’t just go based on what you hear, what people tell you. And I also think it’s extremely naive for some people to wave their hand and say “Well, it’s just pseudoscience.” Well, how can you say that if you haven’t actually read the studies yourself? [LOU] So you have to know what science is, so you can know what pseudoscience is? [DR. SOH] I would say so, yeah. (music) [LOU] Let’s talk about what you describe as ‘politicizing the science around biological sex differences.’ So, what do you gain by politicizing it? [DR. SOH] I think people who do this think that it’s something honorable, and that they are helping to move women forward and get equal rights for us. I mean, I feel like we pretty much have gender equality already, but they feel that it’s helping to promote further equality. And I think this is ridiculous. It doesn’t actually deal with sexism. It doesn’t challenge the underlying beliefs. If, on the surface, men and women are “identical,” that doesn’t change underlying ideas about women being inferior. (music) [LOU] Where is toxic masculinity located? [DR. SOH] Toxic masculinity is one of these interesting terms that I feel really just pathologizes masculinity, and also pathologizes healthy male sexuality. I think it’s really unfortunate that male-typical traits and behaviors are seen as so threatening or so offensive nowadays. I don’t know why that is. I don’t find that helpful. I don’t find that term helpful either. (music) [LOU] So I know that you’ve been accused of internalized misogyny. [DR. SOH] All the time. [LOU] Do you agree with that? Have you internalized misogyny? [DR. SOH] No, I don’t agree with that, and I think that’s just a really easy, lazy way of people trying to discount what I have to say. Another thing that people often will say is, “Her PhD must be outdated,” or something like that. [LOU] You’re so young! How could it be outdated? That’s insane. [DR. SOH Yeah, I mean, people will say whatever they need to to try and discredit ideas that they don’t like. I would urge them to actually go and read the research and try to tell me the same thing after. [LOU] Maybe perhaps debate you? [DR. SOH] Yeah, or debate me. I’m open to that. [LOU] Hell yeah! [LOU] Thanks for watching, guys. 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100 thoughts on “Sex, Gender and Bullshit Part 6: Are science and gender studies in conflict? | We The Internet TV”

  1. Jianju69 says:

    These two are so good together. I think this is my new favorite show.

  2. Ken B says:

    The difference in brains are caused, by hormones, puberty, formation. The body have its genes, hormones, internal sex organs, external so you'l have a grey area that's pointed out by biology. The problem when people point out that it is social contruct, that the scenario is tainted by ideology. I believe that social contruct(the gender stereotypes) and biology are both real in a cetain point but biology isn't binary, computers are and that's why I'm studying technology.(Oh, non binary computers exist, oh, T_T
    Sorry for grammar and this huge comment.

  3. PontificusPinion says:

    Who is this unfunny fuck?

  4. Sharath S says:

    She's kinda hot.

  5. vatsetis says:

    Woa this Biologist has discovered the Umbrella by stating that male and female brains have biological diferences and that we arent a "clean slate"… he really earned its PHD.

    But Gender study dont deny that, they just put in value the social and cultural elements of behaviour in relationship with male/female interaction. Its completelly arbitrary the consideration that Biology is a hard science and social science are just opinion. And then again she gives almost no facts in this interview but a lot of personal opinion… who can "toxic masculinity" be only a claim against healthy behaviour, when its obvious that some of the trends of mainstream male behaviour (IE agressiveness) are certainly problematic from a social point of view.

  6. Jesse Elias says:

    Dr. Soh is pretty hot

  7. Vince Garin says:

    No no no. You can't have science without theory, bud. This is such a canard.

  8. Vince Garin says:

    god dammit why am I still watching these. Why would women argue that they want women to have a higher rate of suicide to have parity with men. Obviously, the idea is that we should collectively reduce that. You know, by reducing the fucked up gender expectations foisted upon men? You know, that, maybe? You know, that whole feminist thing? Hmm, maybe there is benefit to reading some of the theory you try to debunk without reading?

  9. Vince Garin says:

    OH YEAH GIMME THAT HAAAAAARD DATAAAA

  10. Vince Garin says:

    ugh just insufferable. I'm done halfway through this one.

  11. Michael DeppeCarter says:

    Do all men have a larger hypothalamus than all women? Or are there literally millions of exceptions?

  12. Kyle Rook says:

    So this idea of constantly bashing male sexuality is unbelievably short sighted. The FACT IS: If it wasn't for male sexuality, none of us would be here. The human race would have gone extinct millions of years ago without it. SO STOP BASHING MALE SEXUALITY.

  13. FlezzDurjis says:

    Classic measurement problem: you are more likely to get the result that you're looking for. One could easily design a study to show gender as a social construct or that gender and sexuality aren't correlated. A good scientist would recognize these are issues are complex enough to go both ways and stop making it a black and white issue. Gender and sexuality are a spectrum of every possibility, which makes for a lot of confusion and disagreement. I'm sure we'll find a way to get along eventually.

  14. Bryan says:

    Soh Hot!!!

  15. Marc Scordato says:

    What makes this series so charming is that she is so thoughtful so intelligent, so well spoken and the way it contracts and compares with his biting sarcasm.
    I would call this high IQ humor. Great stuff!

  16. Cyber Bruiser says:

    Man are you ever a dumb man

  17. ThePaulfullTruth says:

    This woman has something in the way she handles herself that makes her seem very sexy to me. Maybe its my age, but the young sexy body chicks seem so boring, while this woman, with her fresh face and skin, and healthy unwavering posture, is just very attractive. I think it may be in that she posesses a truly honest scientific intellect and a certain air of security and self confidence, and so it seems to be emotionally safe for a man to be open around her. On the flip side, I guess, most modern "babe" women seem to project, especially the feminist ones, an underlying and deep insecurity and intolerant self-centered or women-first-and-only attitude that can't acknowledge or gracefully accept their own limited intellect and other powers (which is why they have made a culture out of putting down capable masculinity). In any case, the Dr. proves that, at least on screen, smart, honest and pretty can be very sexy.

  18. TheGreen Jarret says:

    Defo looks like a transgender.

    WeirdAF

  19. Laura Lewis says:

    Yeah! These are GREAT, subed and notified! 馃榿馃槀馃榿

  20. 666sigma says:

    90% of the pigs on the Left. That should tell you something.

  21. 666sigma says:

    Its Toxic Feminism. These assholes need to STFU.

  22. Zach E says:

    I want to marry this woman and have gender binary children.

  23. Nick MaGrick says:

    telling me stuff I already know.

  24. Breaking Brad says:

    My first point… why is she so hot?
    Second point… damn she's Soh hot.

    Soh so hot. 馃槏

  25. elmerfadd says:

    Gender studies do not deny the fact of biological sexes nor do they claim that the biological apparatus of human and the gender are unrelated. Gender studies examines the non-biological (ie social and cultural) aspects of gender which are not determined by biology. Therefore this whole series of videos deal with a non-issue.

  26. quercus alba says:

    The guy interviewing is not nearly smart enough

  27. ZB Fire says:

    What the HELL is she talking about. The boy has a P, and Girls have a V

  28. LazlosPlane says:

    Damn, she's steaming hot.

  29. Pingers Bingers says:

    Hear that, turdgobblers? You can stop pretending to be women now.

  30. Lucid Dreamer says:

    This channel would be so much better without Lou.

  31. magruseR says:

    I'm loving this channel so far but, dude the volume, frequency and duration of the "music" is becoming annoying af

  32. Jet Frog says:

    Dr. Soh came off as superficial and as if she didn't really understand the literature she was criticizing.

  33. Think Mackay says:

    It is either you have XX or you have a XY. Those who can't have other people's attention by his effort and accomplish something in life seem to be the ones who try to wear a male body part and female clothing at the same time and screaming DISCRIMINATION AT EVERY TURN.

  34. Jacob Galloway says:

    Soh sexy!

  35. TheDarkKnight says:

    brilliant scientist, science explains logic, the Bible is the ultimate truth "God made human, He made the Male and Female …." there are only two genders/sex Male and female, no in-between, no range, and gender roles are clearly defined.

  36. Yohan Cha says:

    Sex should be talked only with wedlock, and every sex is meant to result a child and family.

  37. ghost Compton says:

    Since when asa Akira gotten smart.

  38. John Strek says:

    Propaganda

  39. SaintNobody says:

    Yeah, get some Doc! Empirically verifiable claims are superior.

  40. Primordial Pete says:

    Lololol
    E=mc oppression squared

  41. WTF ISthis says:

    THIS IS HATE SPEECH. I IDENTIFY AS A GENDERLESS ALIEN AND IF YOU DONT ACKNOWLEDGE MY EXISTENCE ILL KILL MYSELF. WOULDNT THAT MAKE YOU UPSET? DONT YOU CARE ABOUT MY FEELINGS ENOUGH TO GO ALONG? My PRONOUN IS GOD AND YOU MUST SAY IT AND REMEMBER OR YOURE A BIGOT

  42. Magnus Ludvigsen says:

    I love how some of Lou's jokes seem to hit home with Debra, but she's not supposed to react.

  43. PsychicSploob says:

    A little constructive criticism: The transitions are really obnoxious with that loud music. Doesn't fit the type of person watching the video. Other than that great vid!

  44. Axel Cezar says:

    you can hear the snowflakes screaming on twitter, because they can't attack her, because she is a 'her'!

  45. Yes It's Me says:

    You have a Ding Dong or a HoHo, that's it, there is nothing outside of that.

  46. William B says:

    Wow, the Dr is amazing!

  47. JonatasAdoM says:

    It's all a out "I feel it should", "I want it that way" or "reality and facts are not good enough for me"

  48. Masonluo007 says:

    how much do you wanna bet that the 37 people who disliked are full of SJWs who don't understand science

  49. Quick Dimwit says:

    Beautiful woman. Inside and out.

  50. Danosauruscreck says:

    Biology is the key to defeat sjws

  51. Dan Winter says:

    Hello!
    I am transsexual. I have proof that men and women have different zones in the brain that are responsible for sexual identification.
    Transsexualism is an prenatal disruption of sexual dimorphism of the brain.
    Due to a prenatal hormonal disorder, the brain of the embryo can develop into a sex different than a sex of the body.
    But, feminism hides it! They impose on people that there is only gender. That is all just a choice!
    Feminism mixed transsexuals with gender mud!
    This is a huge feminist biopolitical war against all mankind!
    Feminists have mixed transsexuals with people who have serious psychiatric problems!!!
    They call all this transgender people.
    So feminism hides the fact that men and women are different!
    As a result, women do not receive proper neurological treatment (for females brain), and transsexuals are continue to killed.
    Transsexualism is a neurological disease.
    But look what happens!?
    Help us please!!!!

  52. jt says:

    Stupid discussion full of strawman fallacies. The fact is that are BOTH biological and social differences between men and women. The expectation that a man has to be able to drink a certain amount of beer in Belgium and a certain amount of vodka in Russia has nothing to do with biology: Russian and Belgian men do not differ that much biologically to explain the difference. The explanation is definitely culture. It would be very stupid to deny this by a stupid claim that "only biology is hard science". On the other hand, the fact that men cannot get pregnant is due to biology. No reasonable person would deny this.

  53. pepelapiu2004 says:

    That chick is so hot, I couldn't understand anything she said.

  54. Cassandra's Eyes says:

    "Can you explain this difference between Biology and Social Constructs" I mean, are we at a point where we need a PhD Neuroscientist to explain that to us? Shouldnt it be obvious??

  55. Rad Derry says:

    WTF is YouTube throwing this BS into "my recommended" watch list ?
    I may as well have a laugh while I'm here …
    Gender benders are psychologically weak people if not outright mentally ill.
    You either have a dick or a pussy. Now, you don't have to have a prick to be a dick and you don't necessarily need a pussy to be a cunt but either way, you physically have one or the other thus you are male or female (hermaphrodites are the only exception to the gender rule).
    Why has this BS surfaced in recent times ?
    Is it because the governments bosses want the peasants all confused ?
    Is it part of the Nazi science lab rat experiments, by the likes of Bayer AG, where they expose humans to plastic food containers that leak estrogen (a hormone adjuster) that messes with your body or mind ?
    Or is it the cosmetic industry that want to feminize men (Metrosexuals lol WTF ?) so that they can have a new market to exploit the sheep with as well as take the aggression out of men in case of a possible future rebellion ?

  56. Neko Pet says:

    you can't "Further equality"

    You're either equal or you're not. Feminism is pushing for inequality in men until we're considered less than shit compared to them.

  57. dbruin03 says:

    Someone give this woman a medal of honor or Nobel Prize.

  58. s says:

    Is she single?

  59. Adam Meyer says:

    Except this video doesn't show anyone else to confirm or refute what she says….. Pretty sure they don't actually care about the science of anything if they won't even take part in the scientific method

  60. Devin Fletcher says:

    Fact: this real woman is a genius.
    Fact: college students are dumb.

  61. newweaponsdc says:

    She's brilliant.

  62. Benjamin Esposti says:

    1:06
    If anything, some feminists (like Donna Hylton, who led the 2017 Women's March and who served 27 years in jail for taking part in a torture and gang-rape of a gay man) actually want women to spend even LESS time in jail.

  63. Lauren Johnson says:

    A neuroscientist talking a bout biology and sociology… The positivist are really that dumb huh

  64. Kirmie44 says:

    I'm here for a discussion, respond if you wish.

    1:45 – what is the data for biological differences? There is nothing you've said that is absolute or more probable than not. If it's biological, then shouldn't it affect everyone nearly the same loosing the probability? There are no seats in this video and the one set of stats I've seen from earlier is broad and not really a smoking gun. 73% guess work is not that good, 23% better than blind guessing. It's a difference, but what that tells me is that 54% of the time the differences weren't there. Please correct my statistics if I'm wrong.

    I do think there are some difference between men and women's brains but the differences, I believe (because I have no facts for this and would be glad to be debunked), can be explained away the same way people look at any other drug affect on ones brain. If you think of estrogen and testosterone as drugs that you are constantly taking, then you can think of it as something between someone who survives off coffee and smokes weed consistently. They have an affect on mental function and can even change some working but you can't give these things to much credit.

  65. Isabella Kelly says:

    About masculinity, it鈥檚 definitely valid, but can it be used to excuse people from impolite or illegal behavior?

  66. Buhlou Bear says:

    I really enjoyed this video

  67. 螣 桅喂位苇位位畏谓伪蟼 says:

    This channel is so good! You really deserve more subscribers. I love this combination of serious content and humour.

  68. Ritchma says:

    Can't agree more. She's extremely attractive

  69. chrisnivo says:

    Dr. Dog, Dr. Peterson all these smart Canadians that make me proud. Having said that most of the fellow Canadians I know through work are full blown retards like our juvenile Prime Minister, at least there's hope.

  70. dannon2010 says:

    Lou is the new "daily show", back when we had Bush and Colbert was funny.

  71. dannon2010 says:

    "Really just pathologizes masculinity…" Lou glances at her tits. 4:32 . mmmmmmmmm

  72. Micah Buzan says:

    Dr. Soh is super smart and pretty.

  73. William Xu says:

    New series: Soh debates

  74. Brian Elling says:

    Yo that woman is fucking HOT!

  75. Ben Martin says:

    Calling gender studies鈥 untested 鈥榟ypothesis鈥 a theory or 鈥榯heories鈥 is being very generous to the feminists.

  76. John Alister says:

    Intelligence is sexy…

  77. dria moon says:

    Her face at 2:25 is the best part

  78. ALRIGHTY THEN says:

    So they only believe in biological science long enough to get them to the 鈥渃lump of cells鈥 stage of life for their abortion argument, and everything after that is pseudoscience? I wonder how biologists got so far off track.

  79. John Allen says:

    She's a real woman.

  80. FiatDuster says:

    Deborah Soh is like Lucy Liu but hotter

  81. Rmir2 says:

    Try to improve the questions just a little. This is unfair to her intelligence.

  82. 8Razz13 B says:

    I personally think that "toxic masculinity" started off as being what is represented in movies as the "frat bro" type of person. Then it became this bs that is basically anti-men.

  83. Kissalude says:

    So basically making medical conditions political hurts those the agenda supposedly protects.

    If gender and or sex are social constructs then why give trannies help?

  84. Anathema Nu says:

    2:25 Doctor Debra Soh trying so hard to keep a straight face when you know she's laughing inside.

  85. Ninjaslash52 _ says:

    Those non binary genders are just to make people seem special

  86. Aus Bare says:

    Read? We have YouTube. I will watch only who I agree with please do not make me think.

  87. Jimmy Alderson says:

    "should someone know what they're talking about before they talk about it?"
    Wtf mind of stupid question is that? We don't have time to invest in "research" and "statistics" and "data analysis". We're not God's, you can't expect us to do all that lame boring shit. Besides it's hard! I mean empirical data isn't that important right?i mean we're probably right anyway so all the evidence will just fall into what we say without us having to gather it because we're so obviously correct.
    If everyone thought like you then we'd all waste our lives trying to improve our knowledge, ad we wouldn't have time for improving our social standing. So sure 100% of "scientists" think careful ajd codified data gathering is the way to further knowledge. But 500 Instagram followers, and 18000 tumblrs would beg to differ. And really who needs the opinion of an air headed scientist? This is a democracy, so it should be the public opinion that matters. That's why it's called "socialist sciences" – you ducking white male

  88. Chris G. says:

    T O X I C M A S C U L I N I T Y

    I N T E R N A L I S E D M I S O G Y N Y

    T R G G R D

  89. Frase Fra says:

    2:21 I was not ready for that joke…wow!

  90. Joshua Patrick says:

    Yes, science is clear on what differentiates gender….the possession or lack thereof of certain organs and the levels of specific hormones a person has. Can these be altered? 100%, and not intentionally either.

  91. Joshua Patrick says:

    Why would we use gender differences to promote sexism? Society right now has never been more open and inclusive in America…period.

  92. SiglundR says:

    She's pretty. And smart!

  93. B O says:

    Also social science is bullshido until it stops claiming being science just because it uses some laughably funny statistical tools.

  94. mathnofun says:

    "her PhD must be outdated"
    whoever said that, yours must be pretty damn new but worth nothing

  95. the3-dkiller1 says:

    We need to show everybody this video. I can't believe people are so stubborn. I think alot of people came out LGBT because of this, thinking it's all social construct

  96. sUwUcidal 69 says:

    Ok the intro got u a sub 馃槀馃槀

  97. Daniel Youngblood says:

    I was born, with a penis. Surprise!!! I wonder what my gender is.lol

  98. urban explore says:

    biological wins

  99. urban explore says:

    I love this lady

  100. urban explore says:

    shes way better than that feminist bitch with her jobs

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